Josef Kobler

* 1934

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  • "It was a big building, a textile factory, and when the Germans came, they immediately took it in hand and every Tuesday the Gestapo from Brno came there, during the war. From the thirty-ninth to the forty-second year. And as I said, half of it - part of it went to Auschwitz, part of it went to Terezín. And three or four families from mixed marriages were saved by the Germans who let them go."

  • "I didn't think about anything there. We just couldn't go to the yard, we mostly stayed in the house, in the cabins. People weren't interested in anything. As long as I can remember, I didn't understand it, when the Jews would gather here and there at someone's house, my mother would play the zither for them, so they would have some music to go with it. As far as I remember, none of the Jews who were there with us, nobody let me know that I wasn't Jewish, that I was a goy or something." - "Were there Czech-speaking Jews there?" - "Most of them knew German, there was German. I didn't realize that these people didn't speak Czech. There was no Czech spoken there. Only German was spoken there. And Yiddish. And Yiddish, I don't remember any of it."

  • "It was a pavilion house, an old one, opposite the Jewish Temple. And that's where the Germans put us. My mother didn't take any support, nothing, so the brothers went singing in the houses on the pavilions, people threw money at them, at the houses. And then they put us in a Jewish camp. At first it was an old textile factory, and when the Germans came, they turned it into an internment camp."

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We didn’t know what it looked like outside. When we arrived at the camp, the iron gates closed and it was done.

Josef Kobler with beard against the occupation, 1969
Josef Kobler with beard against the occupation, 1969
photo: archive of a witness

Josef Kobler was born on 23 September 1934 into a mixed family. His mother Jana (originally Johanna) was an Austrian Catholic from Vienna, his father Julius was a Czech Jew. The family settled in Pohořelice near Brno. When World War II broke out, his father, who was in the resistance, fled to England via Poland. He was preparing the escape of the whole family to Chile, but it was not succesfull. His mother was left here with her children without resources. As the wife of a Jew, neither she nor her children were spared the anti-Jewish repression. First they were moved into filthy pavement houses in Brno, and later they were all held in an internment camp in Ivančice, where they spent three years. Because they were a mixed family, they were among the few who did not face transport to an extermination camp. In Ivančice they were assigned a dirty and dank apartment where they lived a very miserable life. Meanwhile, father had married in England and never returned. Both of the witness’s brothers fled abroad, one of them, Otto, died in Mainland Southeast Asia. Josef Kobler also considered emigrating to Israel. After the war he married twice and worked in engineering all his life. In 2024, at the time of filming for Memory of Nations, he was living in Prostějov with his son.