Martin Oulický

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  • "I came there for a turn. To chat with my mom, have a coffee, and head out for mushrooms and home. So I had planned exactly which way I was going to go because I knew the place. And suddenly: you know that feeling of being watched? Then I heard something rustling around. So I climbed out of the relatively small puddle into the open space. And now five guys: a Public Security assistant. And I said, 'What's up?' - 'What are you doing here?' I said, 'See, dude, I'm picking mushrooms, right? What am I doing here...' - 'ID card!' I say, 'I got a basket and a knife. I got my ID at my mother's place in Přimda.' - 'Let's go check it out.' So I said, 'Let's go. You've ruined my whole day, but what can I do?' But because this Přimda knew me, and the village is so spread out, there was Mr. Harazim, whose son was my friend. And he was smoking a cigar. And I said, 'Please, Mr. Harazim, they're arresting me for crossing the border. And I'd start in this asshole in Přimda, wouldn't I?' And he says: 'That's the son of Oulický, the technician from the forestry plant.' - 'We don't care. ‘We might believe you, but you could be in on it together.’ I said, ‘Alright then, let's go.’ So we went home to get my ID. And do you think they apologized? I showed them my ID, and they just ignored me, of course."

  • "And then, when I was hospitalized in Bohnice, Dr. Sobotkiewicz said, 'Hey, but you could go...' because they had some kind of partnership with the French embassy. So she said, 'Hey, you're going to go to your English class, before that you're going to pick up some films in Štěpánská. Then you bring it here and that's it.' And it was just a big free. I was hospitalized there, they take your ID and I had a paper and it said: the patient of the local institution has an unaccompanied walk from - to. So I actually did what I wanted. That was freedom!"

  • "Because I used to go to Plastic People every week at Ořechovka, to U Lhotákůs. And when I found out later that every third one was an informer, they were pretty bitches, some of them. Because we lived in Dejvice, for example, so these people who were from the South Town or who were far away went to the Strešovice depot. But those of us who were close to it, we ran under the track, we were home in a quarter of an hour at the Budvarka pub over there, which was closed, but we were actually at Kulaté square (Kulaťák). And someone had torn the flags there. It was those bastards from South Town. Russian flags. What would we do in Střešovická street when we lived on the other side... At 3:00 a.m. we were all at the police station in Čkalovka. Who could have ratted us out? Good friends... Terrible, terrible."

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A music lover from Prague’s Dejvice used to travel not only to the borderlands for music

Martin Oulický in 1975
Martin Oulický in 1975
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Martin Oulický was born on 11 December 1951 in Dejvice, Prague, as a child without a father. His mother soon moved out on her own to study and work, and so the little boy grew up with his grandmother and grandfather. With his youth came an interest in music, and he regularly attended concerts of the underground band The Plastic People of the Universe at the Břevnov pub U Lhotáků. From the age of fifteen, he regularly went on holidays to visit his mother in Přimda, near the West German border. In addition to access to the pure broadcasts of Free Europe, especially its music programmes, he also came into contact with the civil border guards there. After primary school, without much interest in the field, he trained as a lathe operator. Instead of compulsory military service, he became a worker for the Military Construction Works, after which he was to join the shortened compulsory military service. He tried to avoid it altogether by staying in a psychiatric hospital in Bohnice, but in the end he had to enlist. After the war, he joined the FAMU studios in Prague as a lighting technician. He worked there in various professions until just after the Velvet Revolution. In the 1990s, among other jobs, he worked for a long time as a caretaker at the residence of the Portuguese ambassador in the Czech Republic. Martin Oulický lives (2025) in Prague and has two children.