Ing. Václav Grim

"Even since we had illegal publications, [my father] had a fairly wide field and the publications went on through Hradec. But there must have been someone who cooperated, and on October 2, 1940, my father was imprisoned."

"My mother and I were going to Terezín for many months, maybe years, to cry a little. But what to do next? The so-called National Cemetery began to be prepared, where those who were found in those mass cells [meaning graves], without the possibility of their identification, were gradually placed in the National Cemetery. We counted where he might have been, we knew they were in a mass grave in the beginning. It was full, the other was filling gradually. As they were taken out, where could he be. And we came to the conclusion that he would be somewhere between those tombs. At that time they had no signing system yet, in order for us to make some room for regular visits."

"In the end, it turned out that he was really set free, but that freedom was accompanied. He was sent from Litoměřice to the prison in Gollnow, which is close to Szczecin. And from there they transported him again to Bohemia, to Prague at the beginning of 1945, and here the Gestapo made sure that they did not free him as soon as possible, but sent him to Terezín. He had all his railroad equipment with him. The fur coat that helped him, his winter hat, for his stomach problems. Probably for the job that he had to do there for four years. There were several courts in Terezín, he got to the IV. court. That was probably the worst option, and they placed [him] in a mass cell no. 43, where up to 600 people lived on certain days."