Leopold Kukačka

* 1935

  • "There, the State Security officers were already coming to me and persuading me to sign the cooperation. For a whole year, they were persuading me, they invited me several times to the station, to the passport office, passport and visa department, and they were persuading me to sign the cooperation. 'Look, you're a gifted man. You could get your position back. And you're getting divorced, aren't you? We, if we want, your wife will leave naked. She won't get any of your property.' I said, 'We've already settled up.' - 'But you know the lady next door,' they named some lady, and I said, 'I just know she's so pretty.' And they said, 'Pretty woman, well, you see, you and your comrades could go to the Pod Radobýl wine bar and have fun. We don't have to stay here in this office. Look, we'll take our car here, and we'll take the ladies and go to Pod Radobýl.' And I said, 'No, we're not going.' Then they caught me once. I was already working at heights, rappelling down from the Ministry of the Interior and painting the facade. These two who tried to persuade me came. They were drunk, and they said: 'Yeah, Comrade Kukačka, he doesn't know what's proper and appropriate, and he doesn't want to mess with us, but we'll see, we'll see...'"

  • "What happened was that I was at the congress in Vysočany, then the invasion happened, the invasion was already there, the congress was after the invasion. By declaring itself to be in session, but based on the Moscow protocols, that was no longer the case. And it was calm for the time being because first, the communists started to cleanse the top organs, right? There were checks. So many people were replaced at that time in all the cultural posts, all the top posts, ministries, and so on. I don't need to tell you that, that's common knowledge. Then, the next year, there was a purge in culture. It wasn't until the third year that the purges started in industry and in agriculture, too, of course, or maybe it started even earlier in agriculture. Well, and coincidentally, I mean, the director... The purges in the chemical plant were carried out by the workers' militias. They were the biggest bastards, the gossips. Nowadays, everyone has dismantled the recreation centres of the chemical plant in Jetřichovice or the Krušné Mountains. Well, bless them. My father-in-law, when he didn't know he was going to be my father-in-law, was the chairman of the vetting committee. All the technicians and all the officials were summoned there in turn to give their opinion. I mean, what they thought about the troops coming in and the politics. But I had already resigned from the party before, yes, I handed in my legitimation based on the entry of troops, but that didn't exclude me. It wasn't possible [to leave] the party... I couldn't leave the party, simply, so I was excluded only by this vetting committee."

  • "From the Sudeten times, he had some acquaintance with Minister Laušman, who was then Minister of Industry, if I am not mistaken, in the government of Klement Gottwald. Well, with the help of this Laušman, he got the protection for the district to eventually be part of Ústí nad Orlicí. If the name Laušman means anything to you, he was actually originally a social democrat who became a communist after the merger of the communists with the Social Democrats and was a minister in Klement Gottwald's government. And he fled to the West. And some State Security commando in West Germany ambushed him, drugged him, and secretly dragged him to the Czech Republic, and then they passed him off as a returnee. And then, he had to make a statement that he had voluntarily decided to return home. And in the end, they killed him somewhere in Ruzyně, in the prison. The communists in Litomyšl, that is, in Ústí nad Orlicí, began to be frightened that since they had got the district thanks to this Laušman, they might get in trouble for it. So, they stripped my father of his position in the district national committee. He ceased to be the head of the office, and they simply fired him."

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Soviet soldiers stole bottles of dyed water. They were executed

Leopold Kukačka in Serbia 1987
Leopold Kukačka in Serbia 1987
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Leopold Kukačka was born on 23 June 1935 in Kaplice, South Bohemia, into the family of a civil servant. He, his mother, and his five years younger sister stayed at home. When World War II was approaching in 1938, and the German army was occupying the borderlands, the father took the family to relatives in Litomyšl. After the war, they moved to Ústí nad Orlicí, where the father was to establish a new district national committee. Due to his acquaintance with the Social Democratic politician, Minister of Industry, Bohumil Laušman, who was dragged back to Czechoslovakia from emigration by the secret police, he lost his position and the post of the head of the office. After school, the witness joined the East Bohemian Chemical Works in Pardubice, where he completed the so-called working reserve, and the plant sent him to further studies at the chemical industrial school. He was a passionate mountaineer, and his notes about his trips to the Romanian Carpathian Mountains literally created a Carpathian mania in the then Czechoslovakia. Leopold Kukačka became a member of the Communist Party during the war. Still, because of his opposition to the occupation of Czechoslovakia in August 1968 by the Warsaw Pact troops, he gave up his membership. However, it was not easy to leave the party with impunity at that time. So, the regime and its loyal henchmen ensured that the witness had no peace at any workplace. In addition, he was expelled from his distance studies at the University of Economics, and his children were not allowed to study either. For more than a year, State Security agents would come to him and try to persuade him to cooperate, which he refused. In 1973, he joined the Institute of Physics and Atmosphere as an observer at the Milešovka Observatory, where he worked for almost thirty years. After the Velvet Revolution, he co-founded the Green Party. After the first free elections in 1990, he became Deputy Mayor of Ústí nad Labem. After the end of his mandate, he returned as a retired scientific assistant to the Milešovka Observatory. He co-founded and served on the board of the Milešovka General Benefit Society, which set itself the goal of reconstructing the buildings and the summit area on the highest mountain of the Bohemian Central Highlands. In 2023, the witness lived in Ústí nad Labem. We were able to record the story of the witness thanks to the support of the city of Ústí nad Labem.