Mgr. Marta Veselá Jirousová

* 1981

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  • "My mum was without a doubt a saint through and through, a very nice person. My mother actually guided us through that whole difficult time and never made us feel in any way that we should be afraid, even though she must have lived in great fear that she might also be arrested. She had also signed the Charter and was actually the wife of a well-known dissident, but she was a deeply religious person in the best sense of the word, so she always relied on God's help and I remember that she always sang Marian hymns when she was unwell and she just gave us a sense of security in all circumstances. So despite everything that was going on, I have to say that I had a happy childhood thanks to our mother."

  • "I also get asked if our classmates taunted us. My classmates were quite nice, and I was a pretty trouble-free kid because I was smart and calm. The teachers liked me and I think my classmates liked me quite a bit too. I do remember one thing though. When my sister Františka and I were sledding here on a slope in Stará Říše, two boys who lived a few houses over would shout at us, 'Your daddy's sitting, your daddy's sitting!' ('sit' = Czech slang for being in prison). We didn't get that and thought, 'Why, he may also be lying in prison'. So, even though they were mocking us, you see, somehow we didn't quite get it."

  • "My dad had been in jail several times. He wasn't in prison for eight and a half years straight, but he was imprisoned a total of five times, and some of those times were before I was born, and then when I was born he was locked up when I was, I think, eight months old. That was kind of the toughest prison in Valdice and then they let him out again for a while and then they locked him up again when I was, I think, maybe eight years old. Actually, he was still in prison in November 1989. As for the second part of the question, that's just difficult. Of course, I was eight months old when he was locked up, so I didn't really remember, and my dad communicated with us from that prison through letters. Mum would write letters all the time. I remember her sitting at the kitchen table and putting together this letter for a full week, which she then sent off and in return we got letters from him again. Did that affect me? There's no doubt about it. Everything that happens to a person shapes them in some way."

  • "That was always a big expedition, and you could go to Valdice, I think, once every eight to twelve months, so we really went there once a year. We always had to have somebody drive us there. I remember one of those trips with my mom's cousin Jan Florian driving us there. I know I threw up on the way. Also, it was always unnatural sitting so far away from each other. Dad was on the other side of the table, there were these guards and it was just weird talking to someone like that, in front of some strangers. At the same time it was interesting, but it wasn't a completely natural conversation."

  • "I guess it's just different when you grow up in it from a young age. I took it as a matter of fact that my dad was in prison. Actually, I didn't think it was weird at all, I thought it was normal that my dad was in jail. My mum sort of explained to us, of course, that he didn't belong there, so I took it that way. I didn't really make any big deal about it, it didn't stir up any terrible emotions in me, it just was the way it was. Dad's in prison and then he'll be back again sometime."

  • "I remember two house searches. Maybe there were more, but the first one, I don't really know if it's my memories or if it's the acquired memories. It was when we were still living in the sublet house in Stará Říše, it's some five hundred meters away. I remember the StB arrived in the middle of the night and the search took place at night. Our yard was full of strangers' cars, and I remember mum taking us out of our beds and they turned the mattresses and made a terrible mess."

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Dad being in jail was natural

Marta Jirousová, 1980s
Marta Jirousová, 1980s
photo: Witness's archive

Marta Veselá-Jirousová was born in Dačice on 25 April 1981 into the family of dissidents Ivan Martin Jirous and his then wife Juliana. Marta’s childhood was affected by the constant persecution of her father who spent almost eight and a half years in communist prisons. Between 1981 and 1989, she and her one year older sister Františka experienced house searches, visits to their father in prison, and the scorn and denunciation from neighbours. Her and Františka’s childhood drawings became the lovely illustrations for the Magor dětem (Magor to Children) collection of poems, tender and affectionate nursery rhymes that Martin Jirous wrote for his daughters while behind bars. Dissident and later president Václav Havel visited the Jirous family in Stará Říše during the normalisation period. Marta Jirousová completed the Faculty of Education of Palacký University in Olomouc, majoring in Czech language and art education. In addition to teaching at the Otokar Březina Gymnasium in Telč, she has published four collections of poetry and one book for children.