Ca Dao

* 1957

  • "I got summoned by the security officers and they investigated me for a whole day. They asked: ´Do you know the reason why we let you return home? We agreed to let you come back there, not because of pressure from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. But because we wanted to let you come home to see how our country is now very progressive and very beautiful. The Vung Tau city is very beautiful now. The highway from Saigon to Vung Tau is also very good. To let you see how great our country have become so that you don't have to say bad things about it anymore.´ I told them that: ´Humans are different from dogs in a way that dogs only need to be fed three times a day. Only when you want to let it outside, then it could go. If you do not let it go outside, it has to stay inside the house. Humans are different from dogs in a way that other than those three meals, humans want to be able to express their thoughts. [We] want to say what we like or what we don't like. For example, I'm in France. If I don't like the French president, If he does something wrong, I can just say it peacefully. There is nothing wrong. That is the only wish of mine for the Vietnamese people. Of course, in addition to economic development, you guys are doing very well. I acknowledge it. But besides that, humans are different from animals in that they have thoughts and they have the right to express their thoughts peacefully. That is the only thing I want for the Vietnamese people.´ They carried on and asked: ´Why do you keep writing bad articles about the regime?" I replied: “No, I am not saying bad things, I'm telling the truth. If you [officiers] do it is good, then I will write good things. If you guys don't do well, I can't say anything different than that.´"

  • "When I returned [to Vietnam], I really did not feel comfortable. There was no feeling of comfort at all. Besides the joy of meeting my family, I have no other joy. Walking on the street and seeing children selling lottery tickets and elderly people begging, I felt extremely heartbroken, and felt extremely helpless. I could not do anything for them. I did not feel like a person who returned to travel on their homeland. I did not have that comfortable feeling. It was rather very heavy. When I walked on the street, I saw such poor people. I saw that the gap between the rich and the poor was very wide. And the feeling of helplessness that I could not do anything. To be honest, I did not feel excited about returning to Vietnam for travel or anything. So after each returns, I went a little further. Instead of community activities, I participated in [political] activism to speak up about human rights issues for Vietnam."

  • "At that time, I vomited. And someone shouted. Screaming ´She vomited on me!´ But at that time, I could not control it. When I climbed onto the deck, I still remember one more thing, I went up there to escape the horrible smell [inside the cabin], the sour smell, a smell... A smell that cannot be described! [On the dek] There was someone sitting in front of me with some parts their pants reeked with all those sour, ulcerous, and foul smells. It kept fluttering in front of my nose. But I did not have the strength to wipe it away. I just laid there, breathing both the fresh air of the sea and the smell that I just escaped. Luckily, a boat arrived. Someone had already died on our boat. Especially the children. The children had all fainted. When they got close, they threw down a net. Children and women, or people who could no longer move, sat in that net and were pulled up. As for the men who still had the strength, they lowered a rope ladder for them to climb up. When we went up [the rescue boat], they gave us water to drink, food and water. And they made a list. Only at that time did I, and everyone else, realize that there were 303 people on the boat. And a dog. Such a small boat, only ten meters long, loaded of 303 people. Perhaps if everyone knew beforehand, no one would dare to go."

  • "Every Friday afternoon, we had to say what we were thinking that week. What we thought about the regime, what we thought about the political ideology in general. And of course I had to lie. They forced me to lie. They taught me how to lie. Because people like us cannot tell the truth. If you were honest, you would be put under a lot of pressure. That meant that we had to say: "The communist regime is good. Then Ho Chi Minh is...a symbol, a person to whom we must be indebted to" and so on. Generally speaking, it's about political views. In a way they taught us to lie. We were forced to lie. I told the truth, once. And because of that, in my four years in college, I knew that I would not be able to do what I wanted after graduating. I do not have the right to graduate if I am not accepted in the Union. Especially for people with thoughts like mine, how can they be admitted to the Union? So, from then on, the thought that I had to escape from this regime gradually dawned on me. My mother, at one point said that, she hid some money but only enough for one person to go. And my mother asked all her children: "Whoever wants to go, I will give you money to go. But it is only enough for one person." At that time, I was the one who said, “I am going. I will go." At that time I thought,"Either I die in the East Sea, or I will have freedom." Because if I had to carry on living like this, I would not be able to."

  • "I still remember that one year I returned [home from university] to celebrate Tet. When I got home, I no longer recognized my house. Because it was empty. My family used to do business, the house was very long, up to a dozen meters. The house was full of commercial items. But when I returned, I thought that I was lost. I did not recognize my house anymore. It was completely empty. At that moment, my mother ran from behind to open the door and cried, said "Child, they took everything!" When I went in, my mother told me that there were soldiers. They had guns, and they went into the house, and they slept there. Three days, three nights. And they brought cart trucks to carry all the items inside our house. They took everything away. No one knew where they took it to. Later, people said they transported it to the North. When my mother carried the basket to the market. They turned each banana leaf over to see if she was hiding something. They even pried off the floor tiles in our house to see if we were hiding gold. And I still remember that I have an entire bookshelf, a collection of Tuoi Hoa books. I really love Tuoi Hoa books. Tuoi Hoa, Tuoi Ngoc, and even a diary. They took it all. Later a teacher who taught me in high school, he is now in America and about a year ago, he called me and said that: ´I saw that your books [and diary] was sold in the market.´"

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I am a labor rights and media activist from Vietnam with a refugee background. I know for sure the day when Vietnam has freedom, democracy, and human rights will come!

Ca Dao in 2023
Ca Dao in 2023
photo: Post Bellum

Ca Dao was born in Vung Tau, a coastal city in Vietnam where her family ran a business providing livelihoods and education for six siblings. After experiencing significant control and hardship under the new communist regime after the Fall of Saigon, including the confiscation of family property, she fled Vietnam by boat and was rescued by a Dutch vessel. She arrived in the Netherlands in 1981, where she learned Dutch, integrated, attended university, and became involved in speaking up for human rights in Vietnam. Since she moved to France in 2000, she has been protecting labor rights under the nickname “Ca Dao” and freedom of expression under the name “Tuong An”. Since 2006, she has been participating in the Committee for Worker Protection initiative to assist the needs of Vietnamese workers in Malaysia and later shifted her efforts towards empowering these workers to form unions. Her work in bringing out the truth in Vietnam with the big Vietnamese-speaking outlets in America gained the attention of the government of Vietnam in 2011, which resulted in a ban from traveling into Vietnam. All though knowing that she will not live to see the day Vietnam achieves democracy, human rights, and freedom of expression, she continues to work tirelessly every day to bring that day closer.