Marie Janštová

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  • "I couldn't talk to anyone about it or ask any questions. I just kept hearing communists. And politics. And I thought, what is politics? What is communists? I was that sixteen or seventeen years old. It didn't seem to me at all that after the war we were supposed to sort ourselves out as a nation, this one over there and that one over there. Then I heard about social democracy and so on. And I was really confused about that. I speak for myself, because I really hadn´t known about those words and concepts at all. So for me it was a big news and a huge surprise because you could see the fear, the unhappiness and the inconsistency in people most of the time. People were walking around outside, and I was there too, and all I could hear were the screams and the comments. I didn't understand it and I just looked around at the people, how nervous they were. How bad it made me feel, too. That's what I call agitation and nervousness. And when I got home, because I was so confused, I said, 'What are communists? ' And they were just waving their hands and almost crying and saying it was a disaster."

  • "That was so tragic, almost like the war in Ukraine now. We lived in such tension - even in the workplace, you could feel it there. People were always talking about it in small groups. Of course, the dental dapartment, it was mostly [against it]. If there was anybody [for] it, they were silent, maybe one person I would say, but otherwise we were all condemning it and we were against it, against these affairs. It had an effect on the whole nation, because the sympathizers [of the regime] were probably few."

  • "Then I remember that I was in the fourth grade when Heydrich was assassinated, and that was something terrible. The Germans were walking around with rifles and there was great tension. They sent us kids one to this, one to that, and they interrogated us. They asked us all sorts of questions. I know from myself that I couldn't even answer those questions. I just saw and experienced it with amazement. And I wondered what they were looking for. What they really wanted to find out among our little children. But before this was happening, the nurses were pleading with us, 'Don't say anything to anyone, don't answer anything to anyone.' They were just reminding us that this was a great danger. 'Don't say anything, not what you know, not what you don't know, just don't know anything, don't understand anything, and don't answer any stranger to anything.' That was such a commandment that even when we went to that civilian school, we never stopped to talk to any stranger, as far as I can tell, we never met any stranger on any street, and nobody ever talked to us either. People were very uptight and certainly experienced all sorts of things that we as kids had no idea about."

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I have endured all the blows of fate

Marie Janštová, Šternberk, early 1980s
Marie Janštová, Šternberk, early 1980s
photo: Private archive of Marie Janštová

Marie Janštová, née Mrákavová, was born on 16 March 1931 in Příkazy near Olomouc. She spent her early childhood on a farm. In 1934 the Mrákava family moved to Horní Štěpánov near Boskovice. The marriage of Maria’s parents, Josef and Anežka, was not a happy one and they divorced in 1935. Both mother and daughter were materially deprived. Anežka became seriously ill as a result of an accident at work, so Marie stayed with several families in turn. In 1939, the young girl entered the convent school in Boskovice. The school boarding house was searched by the Gestapo during the Heydrich war. After the war, Marie went to Brno, where she worked as a nurse. After the communist coup, Marie’s brother Václav was expelled from college, to which he reacted with a radical act, jumping under a train to end his young life. In 1948, the witness moved to Šternberk, where she married a few years later and had a son, Jiří. Her husband Čeněk became ill with manic-depressive psychosis and after several years of difficult cohabitation took his own life. Marie then worked for many years as a nurse in a dental clinic. She later remarried and gave birth to daughters Naděžda and Zdeňka. This marriage was not a happy one either. In the 1980s and 90s she ran a small nursery in her home. At the time of the interview (2022), Marie Janštová was living in her house in Šternberk.